Discussion:
Courier (not 'New Courier') TT Font
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William Laub
2006-10-04 03:20:45 UTC
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1. Does anyone have a Courier (not 'New Courier') TT Font ?

2. The desire is for a Courier font that is heavier than
the Courier New regular, yet not as bold as the Courier
New bold, for general purpose letter writing. (To emulate
the Courier printer-resident font in the Panasonic Model
2023 printer.)

3. The problem arises by the Panasonic Model 2023 printer
resident fonts of Courier 10cpi, 12 cpi, etc. (useable in
Win98 by the Panasonic Win98 driver), not being picked up
for Word2000 by the Panasonic Model 2023 printer driver
resident in the WindowsXP operating system. No other Model
2023 driver for WindowsXP appears to be available from
Panasonic or elsewhere.

4. (Nonetheless, the Courier 10cpi font resident in the
Model 2023 prints very well from the DOS Editor with the
Model 2023 printer driver furnished in the WinXP operating
system.)

5. Or, I'd appreciate any other comments on solving this
problem (short of resorting to a complex dual-boot of Win98
to accomplish this.)

Thank You,

Wm. Laub
***@execpc.com
Tom Ferguson
2006-10-05 00:21:30 UTC
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You will find the Courier font, whether TrueType or Postscript version,
to be very similar to Courier New in darkness. Both reproduce quite
lightly, especially if reproduced by a Laser printer.

Try Dark Courier.

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?locBasepartNum=lj611en

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
PS
You get an A+ for persistence. ;-))
TF


"William Laub" <***@execpc.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
| 1. Does anyone have a Courier (not 'New Courier') TT Font ?
|
| 2. The desire is for a Courier font that is heavier than
| the Courier New regular, yet not as bold as the Courier
| New bold, for general purpose letter writing. (To emulate
| the Courier printer-resident font in the Panasonic Model
| 2023 printer.)
|
| 3. The problem arises by the Panasonic Model 2023 printer
| resident fonts of Courier 10cpi, 12 cpi, etc. (useable in
| Win98 by the Panasonic Win98 driver), not being picked up
| for Word2000 by the Panasonic Model 2023 printer driver
| resident in the WindowsXP operating system. No other Model
| 2023 driver for WindowsXP appears to be available from
| Panasonic or elsewhere.
|
| 4. (Nonetheless, the Courier 10cpi font resident in the
| Model 2023 prints very well from the DOS Editor with the
| Model 2023 printer driver furnished in the WinXP operating
| system.)
|
| 5. Or, I'd appreciate any other comments on solving this
| problem (short of resorting to a complex dual-boot of Win98
| to accomplish this.)
|
| Thank You,
|
| Wm. Laub
| ***@execpc.com
|
|
|
William Laub
2006-10-07 13:54:36 UTC
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1. My thanks to you Tom, for your input on this problem.
While not perfect, the Dark Courier you suggest appears to be
a good practical substitute. However, it now appears we have
located a root of the problem.

2. The following is my post in the comp.fonts newsgroup, as the
apparent solution to this problem:

=======
1. The WindowsXP-resident Panasonic Model 2130 printer driver
appears to function as a correct driver for the Model 2023 in
WindowsXP. It seems to correct all the deficiencies we have found
with the WindowsXP-resident Panasonic Model 2023 driver.

2. The deficiencies of the WindowsXP Model 2023 driver that vexed
us were not only Word2000 refusing to pick up the printer-resident
fonts, but printer refusal to recognize document margins in Word2000
manually-sized document widths, as opposed to the standard document
widths. Word2000 would report "margins outside document area", and
then print erratically.

3. Changing the color printing settings in the Model 2130 driver
in the Control Panel>Printer Properties>Layout>Advanced box seems
not to have any effect.

4. What appears may have happened, was the programmer who wrote
the WindowsXP-resident driver for the 2023, after he wrote the driver
for the Model 2130, simply erroneously deleted too much of his program
copy when he made the Model 2130 color printer driver into the Model
2023 B&W driver version.

5. We had already tried several of the WindowsXP-furnished Panasonic
printer drivers unsuccessfully. And we are impressed that you were
able to figure out the WindowsXP Panasonic Model 2130 driver as a
solution to the problem.

6. The problem had become paramount, because of crossroads with our
entire printing methods. For that we need to give you our extended
thanks.

Regards,

Wm. Laub
My first post was made from home, where I don't have Windows XP. Today
I got on an XP system, and of course none of my suggestions work. (The
generic text only driver might have worked, but without a printer it's
hard to tell...)
After that, I downloaded the Win95/98 driver for the 2023 from the
Panasonic website, but XP refused to install it; it didn't like
something about iconlib.dll.
However, I did discover that Panasonic makes two printers, the KX-P1131
and KX-P2130, that are similar to your 2023 (24 pin narrow carriage).
Windows XP doesn't have a driver for the 1131, but it does for the
2130. After I installed the 2130 driver, I could see Bold, Courier,
Script, and Prestige CPI fonts in sizes from 5 CPI to 20 CPI in Word.
The 2130 is a color printer and has more resident fonts than the 2023,
but there's a chance the 2130 driver will work anyway. You can set the
driver to default to monochrome printing by going in to the printer
properties from the control panel.
If the 2130 driver doesn't work, in addition to the Dark Courier font
mentioned by Bill, there's a "Courier 10 Pitch" font in TrueType that I
found on a Corel CD. It's also available from myfonts.com (which has
other Courier-like fonts, too).
Finally, there may be a font called "CourierPS" already installed on
your computer -- it was on mine and accessible in Word.
Tom Ferguson
2006-10-08 15:24:06 UTC
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Thanks for the feedback. Do let me know your experience with using the
2130 driver with the 2123.

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User

"William Laub" <***@execpc.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
| 1. My thanks to you Tom, for your input on this problem.
| While not perfect, the Dark Courier you suggest appears to be
| a good practical substitute. However, it now appears we have
| located a root of the problem.
|
| 2. The following is my post in the comp.fonts newsgroup, as the
| apparent solution to this problem:
|
| =======
| 1. The WindowsXP-resident Panasonic Model 2130 printer driver
| appears to function as a correct driver for the Model 2023 in
| WindowsXP. It seems to correct all the deficiencies we have found
| with the WindowsXP-resident Panasonic Model 2023 driver.
|
| 2. The deficiencies of the WindowsXP Model 2023 driver that vexed
| us were not only Word2000 refusing to pick up the printer-resident
| fonts, but printer refusal to recognize document margins in Word2000
| manually-sized document widths, as opposed to the standard document
| widths. Word2000 would report "margins outside document area", and
| then print erratically.
|
| 3. Changing the color printing settings in the Model 2130 driver
| in the Control Panel>Printer Properties>Layout>Advanced box seems
| not to have any effect.
|
| 4. What appears may have happened, was the programmer who wrote
| the WindowsXP-resident driver for the 2023, after he wrote the driver
| for the Model 2130, simply erroneously deleted too much of his program
| copy when he made the Model 2130 color printer driver into the Model
| 2023 B&W driver version.
|
| 5. We had already tried several of the WindowsXP-furnished Panasonic
| printer drivers unsuccessfully. And we are impressed that you were
| able to figure out the WindowsXP Panasonic Model 2130 driver as a
| solution to the problem.
|
| 6. The problem had become paramount, because of crossroads with our
| entire printing methods. For that we need to give you our extended
| thanks.
|
| Regards,
|
| Wm. Laub
|
|
|
| On 5 Oct 2006 18:45:18 -0700, "Captain Grunion"
<***@yahoo.com>
| wrote:
| >
| >My first post was made from home, where I don't have Windows XP.
Today
| >I got on an XP system, and of course none of my suggestions work.
(The
| >generic text only driver might have worked, but without a printer
it's
| >hard to tell...)
| >
| >After that, I downloaded the Win95/98 driver for the 2023 from the
| >Panasonic website, but XP refused to install it; it didn't like
| >something about iconlib.dll.
| >
| >However, I did discover that Panasonic makes two printers, the
KX-P1131
| >and KX-P2130, that are similar to your 2023 (24 pin narrow carriage).
| >Windows XP doesn't have a driver for the 1131, but it does for the
| >2130. After I installed the 2130 driver, I could see Bold, Courier,
| >Script, and Prestige CPI fonts in sizes from 5 CPI to 20 CPI in Word.
| >
| >The 2130 is a color printer and has more resident fonts than the
2023,
| >but there's a chance the 2130 driver will work anyway. You can set
the
| >driver to default to monochrome printing by going in to the printer
| >properties from the control panel.
| >
| >If the 2130 driver doesn't work, in addition to the Dark Courier font
| >mentioned by Bill, there's a "Courier 10 Pitch" font in TrueType that
I
| >found on a Corel CD. It's also available from myfonts.com (which has
| >other Courier-like fonts, too).
| >
| >Finally, there may be a font called "CourierPS" already installed on
| >your computer -- it was on mine and accessible in Word.
|

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