Discussion:
Word auto-created a font substitution I can't get rid of
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Alison
2007-11-30 02:11:02 UTC
Permalink
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.

The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as Administrator,
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.

I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.

Any suggestions?

(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
--
Alison
Tom Ferguson
2007-11-30 18:50:33 UTC
Permalink
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has decided that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font " while in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.

Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.

Let us know.

Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as Administrator,
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
--
Alison
Alison
2007-11-30 20:04:00 UTC
Permalink
Yes it is confusing.

Using Control Panel, I verified that all the Arial fonts you listed (as well
as the Arial Narrow versions) are there.

I had already checked this as my first thought had been that the file was
corrupted, hence the substitution, but there was no change after IT copied in
a fresh version of the file - or after they did anything else. The date on
the copy now there is 08/04/2004.

The Administrator account has no font problems in Word at all. When logged
in as the Administator, when I open Word and check on Font Substitutions,
there are none - which is as it should be.

However, if I log out as Administrator and log back in as Alison, when I
open Word and check on Font Substitutions, it is substituting Arial Bold with
Default - which is not something I did (I don't use Font substitutions, ever)
and no one else uses my computer.

Somehow this problem seems to be connected to my user profile on the
computer and not to all user profiles.

As I said in my original post, everything was fine last week.

If any other information would be useful, just let me know.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has decided that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font " while in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.
Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as Administrator,
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
--
Alison
Tom Ferguson
2007-11-30 21:35:02 UTC
Permalink
Very curious, that behavior difference as between the administrator and
Alison account. Does the Alison account have administrator rights?

When you have clicked to get the Font substitution list and see Default
given for Arial Bold, if you click in the arrow, what are the choices that
appear on the list?

Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Yes it is confusing.
Using Control Panel, I verified that all the Arial fonts you listed (as well
as the Arial Narrow versions) are there.
I had already checked this as my first thought had been that the file was
corrupted, hence the substitution, but there was no change after IT copied in
a fresh version of the file - or after they did anything else. The date on
the copy now there is 08/04/2004.
The Administrator account has no font problems in Word at all. When logged
in as the Administator, when I open Word and check on Font Substitutions,
there are none - which is as it should be.
However, if I log out as Administrator and log back in as Alison, when I
open Word and check on Font Substitutions, it is substituting Arial Bold with
Default - which is not something I did (I don't use Font substitutions, ever)
and no one else uses my computer.
Somehow this problem seems to be connected to my user profile on the
computer and not to all user profiles.
As I said in my original post, everything was fine last week.
If any other information would be useful, just let me know.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has decided that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font " while in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.
Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as
Administrator,
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
--
Alison
Alison
2007-11-30 22:02:02 UTC
Permalink
The User Profile "Alison" has "Debugger User" rights, which I'm told is one
step below "Administrator" rights.

The drop-down menu for Font Substitutions has about 36 "pages" worth of font
choices (I'm guessing my entire set of installed fonts). As far as Arial
fonts are concerned, it lists: ***@Arial Unicode MS, TT Arial, TT Arial Black,
TT Arial Narrow, TT Arial Rounded MT Bold and TT Arial Unicode MS.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
Very curious, that behavior difference as between the administrator and
Alison account. Does the Alison account have administrator rights?
When you have clicked to get the Font substitution list and see Default
given for Arial Bold, if you click in the arrow, what are the choices that
appear on the list?
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Yes it is confusing.
Using Control Panel, I verified that all the Arial fonts you listed (as well
as the Arial Narrow versions) are there.
I had already checked this as my first thought had been that the file was
corrupted, hence the substitution, but there was no change after IT copied in
a fresh version of the file - or after they did anything else. The date on
the copy now there is 08/04/2004.
The Administrator account has no font problems in Word at all. When logged
in as the Administator, when I open Word and check on Font Substitutions,
there are none - which is as it should be.
However, if I log out as Administrator and log back in as Alison, when I
open Word and check on Font Substitutions, it is substituting Arial Bold with
Default - which is not something I did (I don't use Font substitutions, ever)
and no one else uses my computer.
Somehow this problem seems to be connected to my user profile on the
computer and not to all user profiles.
As I said in my original post, everything was fine last week.
If any other information would be useful, just let me know.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has decided that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font " while in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.
Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as
Administrator,
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
--
Alison
Tom Ferguson
2007-12-01 04:36:05 UTC
Permalink
OK. Interesting. Now, when you navigate to Control Panel Fonts, select
detail view so you can see the file names in addition to the font names, do
you see arial.ttf, arialbd.ttf, arialbi.ttf and ariali.ttf? There might also
be others.

Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
The User Profile "Alison" has "Debugger User" rights, which I'm told is one
step below "Administrator" rights.
The drop-down menu for Font Substitutions has about 36 "pages" worth of font
choices (I'm guessing my entire set of installed fonts). As far as Arial
TT Arial Narrow, TT Arial Rounded MT Bold and TT Arial Unicode MS.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
Very curious, that behavior difference as between the administrator and
Alison account. Does the Alison account have administrator rights?
When you have clicked to get the Font substitution list and see Default
given for Arial Bold, if you click in the arrow, what are the choices that
appear on the list?
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Yes it is confusing.
Using Control Panel, I verified that all the Arial fonts you listed (as well
as the Arial Narrow versions) are there.
I had already checked this as my first thought had been that the file was
corrupted, hence the substitution, but there was no change after IT
copied
in
a fresh version of the file - or after they did anything else. The date on
the copy now there is 08/04/2004.
The Administrator account has no font problems in Word at all. When logged
in as the Administator, when I open Word and check on Font
Substitutions,
there are none - which is as it should be.
However, if I log out as Administrator and log back in as Alison, when I
open Word and check on Font Substitutions, it is substituting Arial
Bold
with
Default - which is not something I did (I don't use Font substitutions, ever)
and no one else uses my computer.
Somehow this problem seems to be connected to my user profile on the
computer and not to all user profiles.
As I said in my original post, everything was fine last week.
If any other information would be useful, just let me know.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has
decided
that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font "
while
in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.
Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't
have
Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as Administrator,
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
--
Alison
Alison
2007-12-03 18:26:09 UTC
Permalink
I actually viewed them the Control Panel in the first place and yes, the fine
names are there.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
OK. Interesting. Now, when you navigate to Control Panel Fonts, select
detail view so you can see the file names in addition to the font names, do
you see arial.ttf, arialbd.ttf, arialbi.ttf and ariali.ttf? There might also
be others.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
The User Profile "Alison" has "Debugger User" rights, which I'm told is one
step below "Administrator" rights.
The drop-down menu for Font Substitutions has about 36 "pages" worth of font
choices (I'm guessing my entire set of installed fonts). As far as Arial
TT Arial Narrow, TT Arial Rounded MT Bold and TT Arial Unicode MS.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
Very curious, that behavior difference as between the administrator and
Alison account. Does the Alison account have administrator rights?
When you have clicked to get the Font substitution list and see Default
given for Arial Bold, if you click in the arrow, what are the choices that
appear on the list?
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Yes it is confusing.
Using Control Panel, I verified that all the Arial fonts you listed (as well
as the Arial Narrow versions) are there.
I had already checked this as my first thought had been that the file was
corrupted, hence the substitution, but there was no change after IT
copied
in
a fresh version of the file - or after they did anything else. The date on
the copy now there is 08/04/2004.
The Administrator account has no font problems in Word at all. When logged
in as the Administator, when I open Word and check on Font Substitutions,
there are none - which is as it should be.
However, if I log out as Administrator and log back in as Alison, when I
open Word and check on Font Substitutions, it is substituting Arial
Bold
with
Default - which is not something I did (I don't use Font substitutions, ever)
and no one else uses my computer.
Somehow this problem seems to be connected to my user profile on the
computer and not to all user profiles.
As I said in my original post, everything was fine last week.
If any other information would be useful, just let me know.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has
decided
that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font "
while
in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.
Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't
have
Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as Administrator,
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
--
Alison
Tom Ferguson
2007-12-01 05:05:04 UTC
Permalink
Did you try creating a new user on the system with Administrator rights and
check fonts, &c for that user?

Did you check System Restore to see if you have a restore point available
for a date before the problem started?

Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
The User Profile "Alison" has "Debugger User" rights, which I'm told is one
step below "Administrator" rights.
The drop-down menu for Font Substitutions has about 36 "pages" worth of font
choices (I'm guessing my entire set of installed fonts). As far as Arial
TT Arial Narrow, TT Arial Rounded MT Bold and TT Arial Unicode MS.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
Very curious, that behavior difference as between the administrator and
Alison account. Does the Alison account have administrator rights?
When you have clicked to get the Font substitution list and see Default
given for Arial Bold, if you click in the arrow, what are the choices that
appear on the list?
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Yes it is confusing.
Using Control Panel, I verified that all the Arial fonts you listed (as well
as the Arial Narrow versions) are there.
I had already checked this as my first thought had been that the file was
corrupted, hence the substitution, but there was no change after IT
copied
in
a fresh version of the file - or after they did anything else. The date on
the copy now there is 08/04/2004.
The Administrator account has no font problems in Word at all. When logged
in as the Administator, when I open Word and check on Font
Substitutions,
there are none - which is as it should be.
However, if I log out as Administrator and log back in as Alison, when I
open Word and check on Font Substitutions, it is substituting Arial
Bold
with
Default - which is not something I did (I don't use Font substitutions, ever)
and no one else uses my computer.
Somehow this problem seems to be connected to my user profile on the
computer and not to all user profiles.
As I said in my original post, everything was fine last week.
If any other information would be useful, just let me know.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has
decided
that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font "
while
in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.
Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't
have
Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as Administrator,
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
--
Alison
Alison
2007-12-03 18:30:02 UTC
Permalink
We haven't created a New User yet (we were hoping to find a solution that
didn't necessitate going that far), but we have done a System Restore, which
didn't help.

We also set my privileges to Administrator and there was no change.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
Did you try creating a new user on the system with Administrator rights and
check fonts, &c for that user?
Did you check System Restore to see if you have a restore point available
for a date before the problem started?
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
The User Profile "Alison" has "Debugger User" rights, which I'm told is one
step below "Administrator" rights.
The drop-down menu for Font Substitutions has about 36 "pages" worth of font
choices (I'm guessing my entire set of installed fonts). As far as Arial
TT Arial Narrow, TT Arial Rounded MT Bold and TT Arial Unicode MS.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
Very curious, that behavior difference as between the administrator and
Alison account. Does the Alison account have administrator rights?
When you have clicked to get the Font substitution list and see Default
given for Arial Bold, if you click in the arrow, what are the choices that
appear on the list?
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Yes it is confusing.
Using Control Panel, I verified that all the Arial fonts you listed (as well
as the Arial Narrow versions) are there.
I had already checked this as my first thought had been that the file was
corrupted, hence the substitution, but there was no change after IT
copied
in
a fresh version of the file - or after they did anything else. The date on
the copy now there is 08/04/2004.
The Administrator account has no font problems in Word at all. When logged
in as the Administator, when I open Word and check on Font Substitutions,
there are none - which is as it should be.
However, if I log out as Administrator and log back in as Alison, when I
open Word and check on Font Substitutions, it is substituting Arial
Bold
with
Default - which is not something I did (I don't use Font substitutions, ever)
and no one else uses my computer.
Somehow this problem seems to be connected to my user profile on the
computer and not to all user profiles.
As I said in my original post, everything was fine last week.
If any other information would be useful, just let me know.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has
decided
that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font "
while
in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.
Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't
have
Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as Administrator,
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
--
Alison
Tom Ferguson
2007-12-03 18:41:10 UTC
Permalink
Creating a new user is a reversible change-the user can be deleted when it
has served its propose. It was suggested for testing purposes.

I am now out of ideas to suggest. I will check a few other
sources/possibilities and get back to you if I find anything potentially
useful.

Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
We haven't created a New User yet (we were hoping to find a solution that
didn't necessitate going that far), but we have done a System Restore, which
didn't help.
We also set my privileges to Administrator and there was no change.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
Did you try creating a new user on the system with Administrator rights and
check fonts, &c for that user?
Did you check System Restore to see if you have a restore point available
for a date before the problem started?
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
The User Profile "Alison" has "Debugger User" rights, which I'm told is one
step below "Administrator" rights.
The drop-down menu for Font Substitutions has about 36 "pages" worth of font
choices (I'm guessing my entire set of installed fonts). As far as Arial
TT Arial Narrow, TT Arial Rounded MT Bold and TT Arial Unicode MS.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
Very curious, that behavior difference as between the administrator and
Alison account. Does the Alison account have administrator rights?
When you have clicked to get the Font substitution list and see Default
given for Arial Bold, if you click in the arrow, what are the choices that
appear on the list?
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Yes it is confusing.
Using Control Panel, I verified that all the Arial fonts you listed
(as
well
as the Arial Narrow versions) are there.
I had already checked this as my first thought had been that the
file
was
corrupted, hence the substitution, but there was no change after IT
copied
in
a fresh version of the file - or after they did anything else. The
date
on
the copy now there is 08/04/2004.
The Administrator account has no font problems in Word at all. When logged
in as the Administator, when I open Word and check on Font Substitutions,
there are none - which is as it should be.
However, if I log out as Administrator and log back in as Alison,
when
I
open Word and check on Font Substitutions, it is substituting Arial
Bold
with
Default - which is not something I did (I don't use Font
substitutions,
ever)
and no one else uses my computer.
Somehow this problem seems to be connected to my user profile on the
computer and not to all user profiles.
As I said in my original post, everything was fine last week.
If any other information would be useful, just let me know.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has
decided
that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font "
while
in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.
Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't
have
Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default
font -
which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as Administrator,
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
--
Alison
Character
2007-11-30 22:36:39 UTC
Permalink
Tom - What do you think about suggesting trying

a) Doing a TweakUI Font Folder Repair
b) Deleting the Font Cache (can it still be done under XP?)

- Character
Post by Tom Ferguson
Very curious, that behavior difference as between the administrator and
Alison account. Does the Alison account have administrator rights?
When you have clicked to get the Font substitution list and see Default
given for Arial Bold, if you click in the arrow, what are the choices
that appear on the list?
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Yes it is confusing.
Using Control Panel, I verified that all the Arial fonts you listed (as well
as the Arial Narrow versions) are there.
I had already checked this as my first thought had been that the file was
corrupted, hence the substitution, but there was no change after IT copied in
a fresh version of the file - or after they did anything else. The date on
the copy now there is 08/04/2004.
The Administrator account has no font problems in Word at all. When logged
in as the Administator, when I open Word and check on Font Substitutions,
there are none - which is as it should be.
However, if I log out as Administrator and log back in as Alison, when I
open Word and check on Font Substitutions, it is substituting Arial Bold with
Default - which is not something I did (I don't use Font
substitutions, ever)
and no one else uses my computer.
Somehow this problem seems to be connected to my user profile on the
computer and not to all user profiles.
As I said in my original post, everything was fine last week.
If any other information would be useful, just let me know.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has decided that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font " while in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.
Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as >
Administrator,
Post by Alison
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
-- > Alison
Tom Ferguson
2007-12-01 05:05:23 UTC
Permalink
I am not sure what Tweak UI is capable of doing in the Windows XP version.
(Stan Takemoto and others first developed Tweak User Interface to extend
user's ability to adjust the Windows 95 interface. There is no MS version
for XP 64 bit, which is the only pre Vista Windows version I still use.)
However, the font folder still has to have its hidden and system bits turned
on to function as intended. That is what the Tweak UI font folder repair
did. To delete ttfcache in Windows 9x systems, one could simply start the
system in safe mode; wait until it was all loaded and running; restart in
regular mode. Also, one could drop to a command prompt and use DOS commands
to delete it; exit the command prompt; restart the system. Ttfcache would be
rebuilt. However, Windows XP and Vista use the registry to keep the data
that was kept in the more fragile ttfcache file of 9x and earlier Windows
systems.

Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Character
Tom - What do you think about suggesting trying
a) Doing a TweakUI Font Folder Repair
b) Deleting the Font Cache (can it still be done under XP?)
- Character
Post by Tom Ferguson
Very curious, that behavior difference as between the administrator and
Alison account. Does the Alison account have administrator rights?
When you have clicked to get the Font substitution list and see Default
given for Arial Bold, if you click in the arrow, what are the choices
that appear on the list?
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Yes it is confusing.
Using Control Panel, I verified that all the Arial fonts you listed (as well
as the Arial Narrow versions) are there.
I had already checked this as my first thought had been that the file was
corrupted, hence the substitution, but there was no change after IT copied in
a fresh version of the file - or after they did anything else. The date on
the copy now there is 08/04/2004.
The Administrator account has no font problems in Word at all. When logged
in as the Administator, when I open Word and check on Font
Substitutions,
there are none - which is as it should be.
However, if I log out as Administrator and log back in as Alison, when I
open Word and check on Font Substitutions, it is substituting Arial Bold with
Default - which is not something I did (I don't use Font substitutions, ever)
and no one else uses my computer.
Somehow this problem seems to be connected to my user profile on the
computer and not to all user profiles.
As I said in my original post, everything was fine last week.
If any other information would be useful, just let me know.
--
Alison
Post by Tom Ferguson
I am somewhat confused. In one place you say, "MS Word 2003 has decided that
I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font " while in
another you say, "there is no Font substitution at all ". Please clarify.
Also, please use Windows Explorer or similar to look at the fonts directory.
Verify that Arial, Arial Bold, Arial Bold Italic, Arial Italic are present.
Please check the version number of each. Arial Black and the Arial Narrow
might also be present.
Let us know.
Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007
Post by Alison
Sometime in the last week, MS Word 2003 has decided that I don't have Arial
Bold on my computer and insists on substituting the Default font - which
means that my printed documents are screwed up.
The font is in the Font directory and if I'm logged in as >
Administrator,
Post by Alison
there is no Font substitution at all - so as Administrator, the system
recognizes that the Font file exists.
I've "repaired" Word, I've reinstalled Word, I've uninstalled then
reinstalled Word, so far, nothing makes this go away.
Any suggestions?
(I'm running MS Office 2003, on XP Pro with SP 2. If it matters, the
computer is a P4, 3GHz with 1.46GB of RAM.)
-- > Alison
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