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Word 2007 / Displayed Math Text Direction Printing Bug
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unknown
2006-12-13 05:29:48 UTC
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Hi Tom,

The result I'm seeing (both in this posting and in your original in the errors newsgroup) is that there is a problem, but that it's
not the same (exactly) as what you're seeing and I'm still looking at the XML source to see if it's a content issue or a Word
rendering goof. There are other oddities (spacing of fonts on titles when printing to PDF or XPS, among others) from that document.

What happens to the equations if you save as PDF or XPS?

If you save the document as a Word 2003 .doc file, do the equations appear and print correctly in Word 2007?

Interstingly when opened in Word 2003, the equations contained within a paragraph of text, the equations are pictures inside of Word
{Quote...} fields. The equations in their own paragraph are pictures only.

What was the circumstance for applying the Right to Left attribute to the text and equation? The reason I'm asking is that while
you do have text entered Right to Left, it's still English and is actually entering Left to Right when typing, but also when
clearing that formatting the printing doesn't improve when it's a .docx format file.

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<<"Tom Alsberg" <***@zoopee.org> wrote in message news:ul714%***@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Maybe that's a better newsgroup for it than .application.errors...

I noticed this simple issue, which appears to be a bug to me, as I
reproduced it on several computers ?and installations of Word 2007?. I
wonder if anybody else experiences that too? Is it a known bug? Or
else, any idea what's going wrong to me?

Attached is a short Word 2007 document (.docx) demonstrating the
following problem:

When entering displayed equations (using Word 2007's built in math
entry, I.E. Alt+=) alone in a line ??(not surrounded byany text),
equations in paragraphs with right-to-left directionality (switched
using ?Ctrl+Shift) simply do not appear in the printed or PDF/XPS
exported output. Inline equations ??(surrounded by text) do not produce
that problem.?

The simple workaround is to change the directionality of all display
equation paragraphs to left-to-?right. Since there is no text around
display equations, that will only have any other side effects in ?terms
of paragraph spacing.?

Any ideas?

-- Tom >>
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Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
Tom Alsberg
2006-12-18 18:49:50 UTC
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Hi, Bob.

I am interested to know what you are seeing different than me. What do
you see when printing the document or saving as PDF? I put the PDF file
I get here:

http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~alsbergt/local/bugs/office/2007/direqprint/word2007-direqprint-bug.pdf

where you can clearly see a big empty space where the display equation
in the right-to-left paragraph should be. Are you seeing anything else
missing when you print it, or nothing at all?

I must note that there is really nothing special in this document - as
it appears to me, just start a new empty document, press Ctrl+Right
Shift to switch the paragraph to right-to-left, and enter an equation -
that equation will not appear in the printed output. When changing that
paragraph then back to be left-to-right, it does get printed well again.

To me, the spacing of fonts in titles when printing to PDF or XPS is not
visible. However as I described, in the right-to-left paragraph where
the equation is set on its own, it is not apparent in the printed
output. The result is the same when saving as PDF or XPS - the equation
simply does not appear there. Its space is there - the whole area where
the equation should be space is just white.

When I save the document as a Word 2003 .doc file, the equations are
converted to bitmap images, and the display equations, which used to be
horizontally centered, appear as bitmaps aligned to the left (in the
left-to-right paragraph) and to the right (in the right-to-left
paragraph). The converted .doc file then gets opened fine both in Word
2003 and in Word 2007 (in Compatibility Mode), and can also be printed
fine in either, with the image aligned to the side and appearing as bitmaps.

As for the circumstances, it originally occurred in a Hebrew document I
had to write, so the paragraphs were all right-to-left, and so were the
equations. Now that I am aware of this problem, I simply change to
left-to-right every time I typeset a displayed equation in such a
document, and since there is no text around such an equation anyway, it
doesn't disturb me. Except, that the spacing and paragraph indentation
gets reversed at that point, so the equation moves horizontally a bit.

I'm still interested to know - if you see different results, can you
post a PDF file or somehow else show what you see when printing such a
document? From a few installations of Word 2007 I have tried it on,
this does seem to me like a bug that affects Word 2007 universally.

Thanks, best regards,
-- Tom
Post by unknown
Hi Tom,
The result I'm seeing (both in this posting and in your original in the errors newsgroup) is that there is a problem, but that it's
not the same (exactly) as what you're seeing and I'm still looking at the XML source to see if it's a content issue or a Word
rendering goof. There are other oddities (spacing of fonts on titles when printing to PDF or XPS, among others) from that document.
What happens to the equations if you save as PDF or XPS?
If you save the document as a Word 2003 .doc file, do the equations appear and print correctly in Word 2007?
Interstingly when opened in Word 2003, the equations contained within a paragraph of text, the equations are pictures inside of Word
{Quote...} fields. The equations in their own paragraph are pictures only.
What was the circumstance for applying the Right to Left attribute to the text and equation? The reason I'm asking is that while
you do have text entered Right to Left, it's still English and is actually entering Left to Right when typing, but also when
clearing that formatting the printing doesn't improve when it's a .docx format file.
--
Tom Alsberg - certified insane, complete illiterate.
Homepage: http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~alsbergt/
* An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it.
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