Discussion:
Installing Fonts
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
2007-08-23 22:52:20 UTC
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Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
someone there might have some ideas.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC. I went
to
the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then File Menu and Install Fonts. I
browsed to the correct location but in the Font List window it showed no
fonts found.
The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have the right type of
font file or am I doing something wrong?
I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question than it is specific
to Word but I couldn’t find a Windows discussion group.
Character
2007-08-23 23:36:35 UTC
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Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
someone there might have some ideas.
I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
copy the data fork.

If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
conversion anyway.

If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
than it is specific to Word but I couldn’t find a
Windows discussion group.
- Character
Mary Ann
2007-08-24 05:38:01 UTC
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Re browsing to the "correct location"

I tries 2 processes - one, browsing direct to the CD where the files were
and two, copying them in the normal way to folder on hard drive and then
browsing to that location.

If they are older Mac fonts and they do get copied correctly, how do I
convert them
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Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
someone there might have some ideas.
I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
copy the data fork.
If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
conversion anyway.
If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
than it is specific to Word but I couldn’t find a
Windows discussion group.
- Character
Tom Ferguson
2007-08-24 06:00:24 UTC
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On the question of font conversion from Mac to PC:

Try a Google or similar search for CrossFont or TransType.

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
Post by Mary Ann
Re browsing to the "correct location"
I tries 2 processes - one, browsing direct to the CD where the files were
and two, copying them in the normal way to folder on hard drive and then
browsing to that location.
If they are older Mac fonts and they do get copied correctly, how do I
convert them
Post by Character
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
someone there might have some ideas.
I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
copy the data fork.
If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
conversion anyway.
If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
than it is specific to Word but I couldn’t find a
Windows discussion group.
- Character
Mary Ann
2007-08-27 08:58:02 UTC
Permalink
Thank you

Mary Ann
Post by Tom Ferguson
Try a Google or similar search for CrossFont or TransType.
Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
Post by Mary Ann
Re browsing to the "correct location"
I tries 2 processes - one, browsing direct to the CD where the files were
and two, copying them in the normal way to folder on hard drive and then
browsing to that location.
If they are older Mac fonts and they do get copied correctly, how do I
convert them
Post by Character
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
someone there might have some ideas.
I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
copy the data fork.
If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
conversion anyway.
If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
than it is specific to Word but I couldn’t find a
Windows discussion group.
- Character
Character
2007-08-24 06:07:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mary Ann
Re browsing to the "correct location"
I tries 2 processes - one, browsing direct to the CD where the files were
and two, copying them in the normal way to folder on hard drive and then
browsing to that location.
If they are older Mac fonts and they do get copied correctly, how do I
convert them
If they're from a newer mac, if they're Truetype fonts they might be
usable directly; if they're Opentype fonts they WILL be usable.

If they're Type 1 fonts, they must be converted.

If they're truetype, there's a simple free conversion program,
TTConvert or TTConverter available that runs on the mac. I don't know
of an equivalent on the pc side.

There's also a very old free dos command line program, Refont, that
does a barely adequate job and it's non-free windows (3.1!)
equivalent, WRefont.

Current conversion programs that run on the PC include Crossfont (from
ASY) and TransType (from Fontlab).

Any given font is subject to licensing restrictions that may or may
not allow the transfer of fonts or their conversion.

- Character
Post by Mary Ann
Post by Character
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
someone there might have some ideas.
I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
copy the data fork.
If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
conversion anyway.
If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
than it is specific to Word but I couldn’t find a
Windows discussion group.
- Character
Mary Ann
2007-08-27 08:58:03 UTC
Permalink
Thank you

Mary Ann
Post by Character
Post by Mary Ann
Re browsing to the "correct location"
I tries 2 processes - one, browsing direct to the CD where the files were
and two, copying them in the normal way to folder on hard drive and then
browsing to that location.
If they are older Mac fonts and they do get copied correctly, how do I
convert them
If they're from a newer mac, if they're Truetype fonts they might be
usable directly; if they're Opentype fonts they WILL be usable.
If they're Type 1 fonts, they must be converted.
If they're truetype, there's a simple free conversion program,
TTConvert or TTConverter available that runs on the mac. I don't know
of an equivalent on the pc side.
There's also a very old free dos command line program, Refont, that
does a barely adequate job and it's non-free windows (3.1!)
equivalent, WRefont.
Current conversion programs that run on the PC include Crossfont (from
ASY) and TransType (from Fontlab).
Any given font is subject to licensing restrictions that may or may
not allow the transfer of fonts or their conversion.
- Character
Post by Mary Ann
Post by Character
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
someone there might have some ideas.
I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC.
I went to the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then
File Menu and Install Fonts. I browsed to the correct
location but in the Font List window it showed no fonts found.
By "the correct location" do you mean the CD?
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
This typically happens when fonts have been incorrectly copied from a
Mac or a Mac CD. Older Mac fonts have their data in the resource fork
rather than the data fork (don't ask!), and most compression,
extraction and copy programs copy only the data fork, which for mac
fonts is empty (zero length). They have to be told specifically to
copy the data fork.
If those ARE older Mac fonts, they can't be used on a pc without
conversion anyway.
If they're NOT Mac fonts then something else went wrong in the copying
process to end up with zero-length (i.e., empty) files.
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have
the right type of font file or am I doing something wrong?
I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question
than it is specific to Word but I couldn’t find a
Windows discussion group.
- Character
Mary Ann
2007-08-27 08:58:03 UTC
Permalink
Thanks for cross-posting this for me Suzanne

Mary Ann
Post by Suzanne S. Barnhill
Not a Word issue per se, as fonts are installed in Windows, not Word, but
I'm cross-posting this to microsoft.public.word.printingfonts in hopes that
someone there might have some ideas.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
I have been sent some font files which I want to install on my PC. I went
to
the Fonts folder in Control Panel, then File Menu and Install Fonts. I
browsed to the correct location but in the Font List window it showed no
fonts found.
The font files are there but I notice they are size 0Kb.
Does anyone know what is going on here. Do I not have the right type of
font file or am I doing something wrong?
I am using Windows XP. The font files were originally on a CD.
I am aware this is probably more of a Windows question than it is specific
to Word but I couldn’t find a Windows discussion group.
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